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4059 No. 4059 ID: af9412
A lot of discussion's come up in the latest DiveQuest chapter so I wanted to clarify some things here without diverting the action of the thread itself.

This whole reorganizational thing, facilitated by the character of Ashedel, is not really a retcon of anything, just a reorganization.
I mentioned that I was so frustrated by and not at all enjoying Divequest that I was on the verge of just outright canceling it, but instead I made some big changes to its overall theme and drive, and one of my biggest changes is ripping out all the micromanagement. That wasn't fun and several people told me they weren't able to keep up with the quest solely because of the bloated inventories and mana management, and I was inclined to agree. Simple is better.
Other changes include the way puzzles are handled, the general focus and scale, social interactions between the characters, and so on.
Mostly, as you can probably tell by now, DiveQuest is supposed to be pretty over the top and tongue-in-cheek, and I wanted to change the flow of the quest to better fit that. As it was, the puzzles and pacing too closely matched RubyQuest, which didn't really work for Dive.

Major changes include more focus on the characters, more dynamic puzzles, more agency on the part of the players, more of an over-the-top aesthetic, a generally smaller scale in terms of Muschio's minions (so that each of them can have their own personality), less stuff that takes itself too seriously, and so on. You get the basic idea.
The goal here is to make it more accessible, fast-paced, entertaining, somewhat silly, and open for new players.

That doesn't mean this is going to turn into a Harem quest or that there's not going to be more profuse amounts of violence, nor that everything will be RANDOM AND WACKY, nor that there will be no serious moments interspersed.
Just that the previous incarnation of DiveQuest was thoroughly unenjoyable for me, because it was a sluggish, clunky, overburdened, over-technical, and almost schizophrenic (in the bad way) experience.

Chapter 8 was the real turning point, I think. At the beginning I made my decision not to abandon DiveQuest, but to turn it into something more enjoyable, and by the end of the chapter I'd set the preparations for it to shift gears somewhat.

Thought I might as well get that out there for anyone who wasn't on IRC when I went over it.
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No. 48108 ID: 45fc67
DiveQuest returns! Huzzah!
I think this is the first time in-quest that we've seen Wes display an emotion other than nervousness or....whatever emotion a blank-face conveys (ambivalence?). Kinda nice to see, even if he is ticked-off. I'm likin' him more and more.

And I'm getting a kick outta the latest update.

Also, Emmy is apparently female. I did not know that. :I
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No. 48391 ID: 17d86a
First up, thanks a lot for everything you created.
This weekend I discovered RubyQuest and read it through in one run. Afterwarts I had this bad empty feeling you sometimes get when something epic ends. After that i found NanQuest and finaly the World Eater thread and I'd kill for being part of something that epic. Where do you get inspiration for a big story like that? I try writing things for role playing games and the like on my own, but seeing what you create makes me kind of depressed for my lack of creativity.
For the next days I'll consume DiveQuest and I'm already exited at this point.
(If my english sucks, I'm sorry, also sorry if this is a little of the topic, didn't know where to place it)
Greetings and thanks from germany!
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No. 48407 ID: f3a1d4
Hi!

I read Ruby's Quest some years ago, reread it yesterday and became aware by some comments that there is Dive-Quest, too.
Divequest is a really interesting story (as was Rubys quest, too) and I would like to ask, if there is
a flash-version
of the story, so it can be read easier...

I'm currently learning flash & actionscripting, so I began practicing by putting a simple flash of the first chapter of DiveQuest in the manner of ruby's quest together... However, I even don't know who's permission I need to publish it somewhere or where to publish it at all^^
Also, as I'm a beginner in Flash and in tgchan and in... all here, I would like to ask for a bit critique (if I'm allowed to publish/make it somewhere)...

Is there any way to contact someone that I may have to get permission from like Weaver or do I just have to wait and hope, Weaver might read this comment here?^^

Regards,
Dediggefedde
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No. 48415 ID: 543aa6
By all means, you are welcome to repackage and redistribute DiveQuest as you see fit, so long as you provide links to the original source(s) here, and don't do anything shady like try to claim ownership or drop credit where it's due.
Otherwise feel free to put it into new forms and places. I have nothing against that kind of open expression.
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No. 48418 ID: f3a1d4
>>358215

Thank you very much!

Then I will upload it to Deviantart when I completed importing the first chapter and link it here again, so you can see yourself that I gave the proper credits...

I think it's okay, when I write on first&last page that Divequest was made by Weaver with a link to the wiki?
http://www2.tgchan.org/wiki/DiveQuest
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No. 48440 ID: ae2c63
Oh man, base progress!

Also: I would totally buy Divequest books/expanded universe novels/encyclopaedias/plushes/undergarments/etc. I could think of no quest author better to sell merch.
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No. 48441 ID: becb83
>>358240
maybe design action figures
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No. 48443 ID: ae2c63
>>358241

Muschio action figure! Now with detachable hand!
Coming soon: The Vault playset! Comes with all your favourite characters! (Odds and Denlings sold separately)
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No. 48444 ID: 72d49b
Pendle got no gumption.
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No. 48452 ID: 202e3b
Weaver, you have no idea how excited I am to see Divequest going again.
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No. 48558 ID: 2ca5d6
>>358215
Hi!

I've completed the first flash-version of the first chapter^^
would you like to look at it?
http://dediggefedde.deviantart.com/art/Divequest-flash-chapter-1-280714266
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No. 48597 ID: cc7c47
>>358358
It needs sound, and a narrator. Or that is my opinion.
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No. 48604 ID: 31c5e5
>>358397
Well, unfortunately I just wracked my microphone...
regarding the music... I'm no musician/mixer, so I don't have much background-music... So if you have or if you know someone who would make some for being credited, feel free to tell me!
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No. 48620 ID: 72d49b
How come the greentext is blue?

Also, I'd forgotten about that little monster in his hole. What ever happened to him?
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No. 48621 ID: cc47f2
In terms of a narrator, I think that would lead into a larger project altogether. Not that I'm complaining, that flash is awesome, but maybe getting voices to the faces could be a whole thing. As it stands, Muschio still sounds like the lead singer of Flogging Molly to me.
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No. 48624 ID: 72d49b
Yeah, I don't think it would benefit from a VA or sound; I reckon it's excellent as it is. Will be very helpful/nice to direct people to as more chapters are completed.

Although if we want sound as in background music, that song Ed Pastry made is fucking great.
Should probably still have a mute button though.
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No. 48626 ID: d537fe
>>358420
>how come the green text is blue
Well, textcolor isn't an information that gets copied with the text, so I could choose a color on my own... and I like blue^^
I also had to find some colors matching the black background...

>>358424
Do you mean this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snQlYp39E_U
any idea how to contact Ed Pastry ?
Plus, maybe looping one sound the whole flash is kind of unnerving, as it takes approximately 20 minutes to read it full... so maybe some other musics for different environments and Ed's for the start+intro? maybe someone should make a contest...
But even then this problem is remaining, as there are already 24 chapters, so that's a lot of music needed, isn't it?^^
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No. 48656 ID: 4f1b29
still figuring this place out. It's not the most user friendly site I've ever been to......
but I'll manage.

Also, curse you Dediggefedde. I read all 24 chapters in the last few days since bumping into the flash you made of this quest. Didn't do a single productive thing in the mean time!

But I'll forgive you because DiveQuest is awesome.

Now how do I insert those little 'quote' things >_>

-new voice added to the orb of infinite psyche-
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No. 48673 ID: 202e3b
I love the flash version. No comment on music/sounds, since I watched it while muted, but I thought it was solidly done.
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No. 48676 ID: 6154e0
>>358473
>no comment on music/sound since muted
Not a single sound-file is included yet, so no need for muting^^

That's basically because I don't have any music.
So, if you have any music files or sound-effects that would fit and which are allowed to be used (!), please feel free to tell me!

Maybe there should be something like a poll or contest about which sounds should be included... however, I don't quite understand this tgchan, so I don't really know how or if to make a new post...
Of course, I could make some music on my own (harp or keyboard) but as I never really learned how to play professionally (I can name you some main musician, their birthtown and lifedates though... so I learned some kind of music too) it may be not that fascinating...

And maybe you would prefer a flash of the second chapter over some music to the first flash-file?
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No. 48677 ID: 4f1b29
>>358476
Well, there are thousands of sound effects you can freely use. Music is a little trickier, but if you search you can no doubt find some that requires you to only name the original creator.

You could google for 'free sound effects', but here's at least one link for you:
http://www.flashkit.com/
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No. 48681 ID: 0bb652
Personally, I like the idea of just leaving the quests as-is and soundless. I guess if you had some incidental music on hand you thought was good, great, but I don't see the need for you to add music/sound effects to 'em. I don't think the RubyQuest flashes did, either, and I don't think it hurt them at all.
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No. 48691 ID: 4f1b29
>>358481
It has its own charm, definitely. I merely provided a link where possibly useful sounds could be found in the event that Dediggefedde really wanted to implement some. ;)
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No. 48705 ID: 72d49b
>>358426
That would be it, yeah.

>Plus, maybe looping one sound the whole flash is kind of unnerving
Yep. I reckon starting Ed's song on the Devil line would be fairly powerful.

>And maybe you would prefer a flash of the second chapter over some music to the first flash-file?
I would. The reason we're talking about sound is because talking about the next chapter would be like "You should make the next chapter!" "Yeah!" and then there's nothing else to say.

>>358481
I concur in general, but sound in a few places can make experience stronger, I reckon.

Anyway, here's that song in a usable format.

Because the link Ed originally gave appears to have 404'd.
http://www.mediafire.com/?782cfx1a61pf86n
I went all the way back to the first fanart thread and found it, only to have it not work.
Getting Ed's permission should be as simple as hanging around IRC and talking to him when he turns up. I'd be very surprised if he had a problem with it.
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No. 48716 ID: f9a5f9
>>358505
Well, you could also talk about what to improve(change) about the flash, not only what could be added, as when I'm making the next chapter, it would be nice to work in a way that doesn't need to get changed later^^

As for irc... well, maybe I'm stalking the irc then... I wasn't in a irc-chat for quite some time... although I don't know Ed's nickname... and when he get's online...

>Yep. I reckon starting Ed's song on the Devil line would be fairly powerful.
you mean the last frame?
I'm not sure to implement such a long song, as 0.8Mb (I converted the sound to mp3 to use) will lead to longer loading-times...
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No. 48719 ID: 72d49b
>>358516
>although I don't know Ed's nickname
Ed Pastry's IRC name is Ed_Pastry.
It doesn't have to be you, somebody else could direct him to this thread, but you really ought to be on IRC anyway. Everyone should.

Although I haven't seen Ed around lately and a cursory investigation indicates he hasn't updated in a few weeks, Nd I've not seen him around IRC lately either, so it might be a while.
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No. 48727 ID: 4f1b29
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48727
Sometimes random thought patterns turn into strange things.
Sometimes those strange things don't let go untill you put them on paper.

this was one of those strange things that popped up in my head. Tried to keep it in the DiveQuest art style.
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No. 48855 ID: fa1d9c
When I didn't make any severe mistakes, flash-file of chapter2 is now available:

http://dediggefedde.deviantart.com/art/Divequest-flash-chapter-2-282766445#
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No. 48880 ID: 4f1b29
>>358655
Read it just now. Left a comment too. ^^
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No. 49107 ID: 543aa6
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49107
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No. 49109 ID: d12795
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49109
>>358907
alright weaver, you got me. Now i have to draw fanart for that dawable finesse.
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No. 49111 ID: 4c0017
>>358909
Finesse is yellow. You have failed me, padawan.
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No. 49135 ID: d12795
>>358911
YELLOW!?

i've always seen my goblins as green... why would a goblin be yellow, or any color aside from green?
that'd be like making the goblins similar to... ponies.
NO, I WILL NOT HAVE THIS! I WILL FOREVER SEE ALL GOBLINS (including finesse) AS GREEN!
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No. 49140 ID: 049dfa
Goblins have been colors that are not green literally since they were invented. The only place where they are specifically green is warcraft/hammer.
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No. 49141 ID: 582c62
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49141
>>358935
>>358935

not if you ever wanna use this Weaver-made wallpaper you won't.
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No. 49144 ID: 4f1b29
>>358907
Dawwwww! Look at that little huggable lady!
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No. 49147 ID: d145ac
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49147
Well, I made almost the same mistake when I began reading divequest... I though Muschio's skin would be more human-like and the title-picture would have wrong colors for style^^

By the way: I finished chapter 3.
It wasn't that long but I had little time and wanted to try some things out...

I'm curious whether I could include the file in this post... (if nothing is included->fail)

Here is the link to the flash on deviantart:
http://dediggefedde.deviantart.com/art/Divequest-flash-chapter-3-284281349

-By another way:
I just read about Knightquest, Giftquest etc... and tried reading them, too, however it got kind of complicated and confusing... Quotient of Questions to Answers as risen, too, I think... e.g. the situation with babrakus' mother or the fate of the little girl from chapter 2... the later will probably become a for our group there in the current situation...
It would be fortunate if ridder would have told his allies about "the evil boss" not evil anymore...

However...
Do I see correctly that Geppa isn't in the group-picture?
And why is emmy in there when the odds, mimic and denlings not?
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No. 49153 ID: d12795
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49153
>>358940
>>358941
HA, YOU THINK YOU'RE SO SPECIAL CUS YOUR SOME SORT OF GRAND TINKERER!!! LET ME TELL YOU FINESSE; IT WILL BE I, FUMBLES, THAT IS THE BETTER TINKERER!!! I WILL SHOW YOU, I WILL SHOW THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
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No. 49155 ID: 7c4023
>>358953
Fumbles?

...I love it.
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No. 49296 ID: 543aa6
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49296
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No. 49297 ID: 543aa6
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49297
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No. 49299 ID: 459534
>>359096
>>359097

~<3
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No. 49499 ID: e4b2f0
Had a thought occur to me. Is anyone else speculating about what the mystery project that's being built on Finesse's bed, yet? I'm going to put forth a thoery. It's a cradle. There's going to be babybolds running around, once they figure out what they're doing.
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No. 49512 ID: 4f1b29
>>359299
been looking a few chapters back but I can't seem to find what you're talking about.

either way, it's either a new hand for our dear Muschio, or the epic hat that he still desperately needs! :)
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No. 49681 ID: 4d068d
Is this quest dead? Or did Weaver decide to work on Nanquest instead?
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No. 49682 ID: 9c7c3b
Naw, this is just his regular update schedule. Rapid-fire bursts of updates for 3 or so days before switching to another project. It'll probably come back in a few months.
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No. 50835 ID: 4dc5f5
Hi!
I made a little pause... but here is ch4^^
please comment if you like it!
Deviantart is free and fun!^^
http://dediggefedde.deviantart.com/art/Divequest-flash-chapter-4-293347283
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No. 54875 ID: 1f8505
And it's back!
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No. 54985 ID: c315be
Am I the only one wondering where they got the karaoke demon?
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No. 54997 ID: fbd8d6
>>54985
they rented it at the bar.
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